He Drinks a Lager Drink
Summer has summered, and my thoughts turn to lager. Many folks were helpful in the last beer thread, so I thought I'd ask outright: does anyone have any recommendations for excellent lager, particularly excellent lager that there's a chance of getting in Berkeley, either at a brew pub or in the grocery store?
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I'm a huge fan of Pilsner Urquell, which was the original Pilsner and the model for most good lagers. For other mass market beers, Red Stripe is very refreshing. If you want something German, the pale lager Spaten Premium should be available most places too.
Posted by: ignatz
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June 18, 2006 01:07 PM
Surely you can get Lagunitas Czech-style Pils in your neighborhood?
Modelled on Pilsner Urquell, naturally.
Posted by: maija | June 18, 2006 01:16 PM
Sudwerks makes good stuff, should be available in BevMo. Tiger Gold is also tasty. Have you tried the Triple Rock Brewery or Jupiter on Shattuck?
Posted by: kindle | June 18, 2006 03:37 PM
http://beeradvocate.com/beerfly/list?city=Berkeley&c_id=US&s_id=CA has good credentials and seems to recommend http://www.jupiterbeer.com/ and http://www.triplerock.com/ .
Posted by: Edmund Schluessel | June 18, 2006 03:49 PM
Yes, a summer lager is the way to go.
Well, my favorite summer beer is a nice, cold Corona Extra, and it happens to be a lager as well. However, if you're looking for somthing with a little more flavour, I'd suggest either Stella Artois or Leffe Blonde. All of the above should be available at any half-decent beer store or pub.
Posted by: Justin
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June 18, 2006 04:24 PM
I'd avoid the fighting lager if I were you... Stella is more style than substance, though they do some great TV adverts.
Posted by: Ithika | June 18, 2006 05:13 PM
I agree that Stella Artois is one of the best beer imports you can buy.
There re some nice beers from your neck of the woods, though. Anchor Steam comes out of San Francisco, and I believe Pete's Wicked is brewed in California as well.
Posted by: Tara Davis | June 18, 2006 06:59 PM
Paulaner Dopplebock, which I currently have 3 bottles of in the fridge. If you're in the city sometime next week, I'll give you one.
Better, if you're in the city, go to Suppenkuche and have a great German lager on tap.
Posted by: Josh Berkus | June 18, 2006 09:26 PM
Full Sail Session Lager.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 18, 2006 09:56 PM
Stella is piss. Over here they call it "wifebeater". A friend of mine from Belgium was telling me that they started brewing it when the Nazis occupied Belgium and demanded a beer like they had at home (Belgian beer is almost all ales).
My favorite Pilseners from continental Europe, for what it's worth, are:
- Radegast, from the Czech Republic
- Topvar, from Slovakia
- Eggenberg, from Austria.
Also it might be worth clarifying what kind of lager you're interested in. The default "lager" in the US and UK is yellow, pale, and around 4-5%...this is generally a copy of the "Pilsener" style, which includes Pilsener Urquell, Budovice Budvar/Czechvar/real Budweiser, North Coast Scrimshaw, etc.
But a lager is technically any beer fermented with the yeast Saccharomyces carlsbergensis, so that opens up the possibilities of steam beer (Anchor Steam), bock & dopplebock, all the way up to something dark and strong like a Baltic porter (North Coast Old Rasputin is an excellent local example).
Posted by: Edmund Schluessel | June 19, 2006 01:01 AM
I'm a fan of Kronenborg 1664. It's relatively cheap, refreshing and actually tasty with it.
Posted by: Paul Wilson | June 19, 2006 04:11 AM
There are a few options.
I'd recomment the Sierra Summerfest - it's a light beer that's lager-ish, but might not be bottom fermented.
Or, make a pilgrimmage over to suppenkuche - www.suppenkuche.com. They have beers there you can't get anywhere else in the states, and you could spend a few evenings there figuring out what you wanted.
Posted by: Jim Wang | June 19, 2006 09:43 AM
Boont Amber Ale.
Look for a bear with antlers on an amber label.
Great taste and a real kick!
Posted by: john sadowski | June 19, 2006 02:02 PM
E J Phair in Concord does some pretty good beer, and they do have two lagers, a pilsener and a marzen. Triple Rock sometimes has lagers, but not as a regular thing. They're good anyway, and as far as I know the only actual brewpub (Pyramid doesn't count) left in Berkeley proper. Jupiter isn't really a brewpub anymore, and it's owned by the same people as Triple Rock anyway.
Whatever you do, for the love of god(s) avoid San Francisco Brewing Company, for your sanity if nothing else. Beautiful bar, nifty 1910 era building, horrible horrible horrible sanitiation.
Posted by: Geoff Engel | June 19, 2006 02:38 PM
Go to Triple Rock on Shattuck (between Hearst and University) and order a print of their pilsner, which they should still have. Their Titanium Pale Ale ("light but strong!") is also a wonderful brew. Most recently, they've had a Hefenweiser with a lovely banana-clove flavor.
Also, their fries are stupidly good.
Posted by: Coda Hale | June 19, 2006 03:54 PM
So, it's not a lager, it's a kolsch, but Pyramid's Curveball is my most favoritest summer beer of all time, evar.
Posted by: lilzilla
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June 19, 2006 10:17 PM
Thanks for the recommendations, everyone. I'll try out what I can get my hands on. I've had Curveball, and I didn't know what to make of it. It had this almost herbal taste to it that I couldn't decide if I liked or not. Assuming I'm thinking of the right beer here.
Posted by: Lore Sjoberg
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June 19, 2006 10:26 PM
Good ol' Anchor Steam! They serve beer at their factory on Potrero Hill -- and it rocks! Reserve a slot for the FREE tour that comes with FREE tastings. Yes, it's good beer -- for FREE. If you're checking out beer spots, this is definitely a MUST.
Posted by: Down10 | June 19, 2006 11:45 PM
If you can get Staropramen over there, I'd recommend that without hesitation.
Posted by: McDuff | June 20, 2006 08:24 AM
Here's an image of that there Boont Amber Ale.
If you see this at your beer store, grab it.
http://www.sotallytober.com/images/brew/162.jpg
Posted by: john sadowski | June 20, 2006 11:29 AM
Yeah, curveball's pretty strange. I find it the refreshing kind of strange, tho. Crisp without relying too much (or much at all) on the hops.
Posted by: lilzilla | June 20, 2006 11:34 AM
Passing by a store that sold Pilsner Urquell, I made a joke about it to my friend, who worked it into this comic:
http://muertitos.comicgenesis.com/d/20050621.html
Posted by: G'Tron | June 20, 2006 03:33 PM
Great timing, I just recently started up a liquor (mostly beer) review blog. http://liquorlog.blogspot.com
As for lager, Red Stripe is pretty good, Japanese beers such as Kirin, Sapporo, and Asahi are great in the summer, and if all fails, there's allways Heineken and Stella Artois.
Posted by: Lady Cooper | June 21, 2006 09:32 AM
Don't overlook Beck's. It's cheap, crisp and usually tasty (although I've gotten bad/stale batches from time to time). If you prefer more flavor, Beck's Dark is a decent summertime brew for the full-bodied beer fan.
I'm also partial to Gösser, which is maybe a little bit harder to find but not by much. Another reliable, workmanlike German lager with a good, crisp flavor.
Posted by: K. Signal Eingang | June 21, 2006 12:36 PM
Another vote for Sudwerk. Try the Doppelbock, if you can find it. Failing that, you can jump on the train to Davis, walk to the brewery, and drink all the Doppelbock you want.
Posted by: Mark Z. | June 21, 2006 01:35 PM
Curveball is odd, but *everything* from Pyramid is odd. And not in a good way, like Bison's freaky lemongrass basil ale. I worked there, mind you, and have first hand experience. Their scotch ale tastes like bananas, their hefe tastes like band-aids, their pale ale is more bitter then their IPA, which is the wrong way around. The only cool thing Pyramid ever did was to ferment 7th Street, which was an accident. The only good thing coming out of that building, I think, is Thomas Kemper Soda, and I can *still* tell stories about that stuff...
Posted by: Geoff Engel | June 22, 2006 09:52 AM
It isn't very posh, but I rather enjoyed Samuel Adams Boston Lager when we were in the US last month. And we live in Prague so we know from lager. Also, you can get it everywhere.
Posted by: Fernmonkey | June 23, 2006 05:34 AM
If you travel to around 31st Ave. & Clement Street in San Francisco, there is a Russian market called "Euro Foods". In addition to a rather spectacular Russian deli, they usually have 7-9 different varieties of Baltic Lager. In fact, you could do a Rating of Baltic Lagers, there's enough of them ...
Posted by: Josh Berkus | June 24, 2006 09:08 PM
The Sam Adams you can get here in Boston is better than the Sam Adams they sell everywhere else. You might not believe that's true, but do you have the guts to come up here and prove it? Bring money.
(post paid for by Boston Tourism Board)
Posted by: Dick Ruthless | July 17, 2006 10:10 AM
Another definite vote for Staropramen, even if it does mean agreeing with McDuff.
Posted by: Sergei | July 17, 2006 01:31 PM